Stephen Hurray 8/10/2019
1.) Stephen Hurray (Huray/Hurrei)
was born on December, 3, 1883 in Spisske
Podhradie Slovakia (Translated into the German/Austrian language, it is
also referred to as “Kirchdrauf”,
Austria)1 Stephen was
also baptized in Kirchdrauf, Austria.2 His parents were Anna and Joseph
(Josephus/Jozef) S. Hurray (Huray)(Hurrei). 3
2.) 1892- Stephen was
approximately 9 years old. (At that
time, in 1892, Stephen was the 4th born of 5 existing children; 2
Sisters and 3 brothers). He also had, at
the time in 1892, a ½ brother (Imre/Emil Zahuranyecz), and at least one ½
sister, (Susan Zahuranyecz).
3.) 1894: Stephen
Hurray was approximately 11 years old. He attended the “School of the Brothers”in the Pittsburgh/Allegheny area [(According
to the handwritten letter dated Aug. 8, 1898, from Spenner to the “Brother Director”(at the time)]—Who was the “brother director”
at the time?? Is that the correct terminology?
How would I explain the term “the school of the brothers” to a layperson?.
3.) 1896-Stephen would have reached the age
of 13 years old in 1896 which means he was “of an age” to go to the “Postulate”3(That is how the term is spelled
in the letter, Is that the correct terminology or spelling?___________ What
exactly does the term mean, and how long does that process last? Is it considered a “high school”? _________
[A Postulant+Postulancy=Postulance which is a candidate for religious order). According to Father John Rauscher (the person
in charge of the postulants in 1934 and has access to records), on July 6, 1896, Stephen “entered the Postulate
at Nazareth” [Can
you give me a definition of what “Nazareth” means as it is used here? I’m assuming it was a former farm property
that was bought in Dayton, then dubbed “Nazareth” as being the location of all
the buildings of the organization? Am I
somewhat correct in that?______________________________ located in
Dayton, Ohio (The correct term is probably “postulancy”, which is a candidate
for religious order) He arrived at the postulancy from Allegheny, PA. (Which
later became annexed into Pittsburgh) Is “Postulancy” the more correct term?__________ Father John Rauscher, was the person in
charge of the postulants, and most certainly had access to past records]-Rumour
from Don Hurray via Uncle George Hurray, via Emil is that Stephen was
considered a “novitiate”, [A postulant
is a term to designate those who are seeking ordination to the diaconate or
priesthood. Postulancy is generally considered the first formal step leading to
candidacy and ordination, and lasts anywhere from 4 mos. to 2 years, which is
quite a gap in lengts. the postulant generally participates as fully as
possible in the life of the community, joining the novices and professe d
members for work and prayer]
Is that paragraph correct?__________.[ The purpose of the postulancy is
to acquire some knowledge of the religious life and of the particular institute
through personal experience. It enables one to become better known to the
superiors of the community, and to develop such virtue as will qualify the
candidate for acceptance into the novitiate. The length of the postulancy varies,
but normally it is not less than six months.] Is that correct?_____________Considering Stephen’s
death date was so close to the 2 year mark, there is no doubt that if he lived
he would have been a novitiate very close to the time of his death and he would
have certainly progressed to be ordained were it not for his untimely death in 1898.
(Am I O.K. to
assume that?)
Considering
all the existing structures in “Nazareth” from 1896-1898, Do you know which ones are still standing today? and
what is there present use?____________Were any that are existing today
possibly, or probably, used by Stephen? Such as the church?________If so, which
Church
4.) From the Postulant Register, 1875-1965, American
Province to 1908, Cincinnati Province from 1908, p. 41
Stephen
Hurrei, 1883 – 1898
Postulant at Nazareth in
Dayton, Ohio
Recorded in Postulant
Register, 1875 – 1965, American Province to 1908, Cincinnati Province from
1908, p. 41
Born 3 December 1883 in
Kirchdrauf, Austria. He was also baptized there.
Parents: Joseph and Anne
Hurrei
Residence: Alleghany, PA
Admitted to Postulate 6
July 1896
Postulate consecration to
Blessed Virgin Mary, 255 March 1897; renewed 29 August 1897
Class III, Class II
completed
Died of Consumption at
Nazareth 1 August 1898
4.) 1898- On August 8, 1898, There was a written, a
handwritten letter from an “S”, which appears to be (or looks like the
manuscript) of the biography of Stephen Hurray, signed “Ferd. Spenner”. [Translated that is: Father Ferdinand Spenner , SM].
That handwritten letter was addressed to:
5.) That handwritten letter, [which is most likely the
manuscript prior to the publishing of the typewritten biography] states that
Stephen Hurrei**** attended the “school of the Brothers” in 1894.
According to a seasoned researcher at NACMS (North American Center
for Marianist Studies, in Dayton Ohio, which as a point of clarification, is NOT
AFFILLIATED AT ALL with the University of Dayton) named Teresa Trimboli, “Stephen would have been 11 years old at that
time—the “Brothers” School may have been a grade school in
Allegheny, Pennsylvania called St.
Mary’s Grade School.” According to the researcher from NACMS, Teresa
Trimboli, there were 5 schools in the Pittsburgh
area at the time (1894) that were run by “The Brothers of Mary” in Pittsburgh. She feels that St. Mary’s Grade School, (not sure where located, but most likely
somewhere in the Pittsburgh/Allegheny area ) “was the most
probable one that Stephen attended.” (The Pittsburgh Diocese
may perhaps have old records, and pictures of that time period perhaps). Do you think the Pittsburgh Diocese has some things? If I knew exactly
which school out of the 5 he attended in Allegheny/Pittsburgh I would be able
to ask them? Do you know which of those
buildings are still intact in Pittsburgh?
6.) Father Hackett, ”, [As far as I can
ascertain this person was not a member of the Society of Mary – possibly a
priest of the diocese charged with the procedure for having a person canonized]
6.) According to that same letter dated 10Feb1934***, there was a movement to canonize Stephen to be a
saint. However unusual that may sound to
us now (because of Stephen’s young age), that’s actually just what was done at
that time in history.**
7.) Stephen Hurrei is buried
in the Marianist cemetery located in Dayton,
Ohio. Rumour has it (As Don Hurray has heard
perhaps from his Uncle George) that in order to not spread the disease that
took him, he was buried far away from others at the time. His official cause of death was consumption
(Being buried further away has not been confirmed, however a look at the
cemetery burial dates around him may substantiate that)
8.) another rumour has it that there is a big plaque that
was posted in honor of Stephen.
to “Father Hackett”,
[As far as I can ascertain this person was not a member of the
Society of Mary – possibly a priest of the diocese charged with the procedure
for having a person canonized] who apparently said at one point
“…and there was a movement to canonize him.”
P.S. Don Hurray said that his Uncle George Hurray told him
that “Stephen was a priest in Steubenville, Ohio
(or maybe it was Dayton)
at a University and that he died there and they had a big plaque in his honor
there.” [It’s possible, but I’m not aware of one]. Stephen may have gone to Steubenville, Ohio
at some point, but he definitely was too young to be a priest. I have not found any records of him being in Steubenville, but anything
is possible. According to the
researcher, Teresa Trimboli : (“For a few years (1855-1858) the Society of Mary (marianists), in Louisville, Ohio
was in the Steubenville Diocese.” )
Evidently what he knew about Stephen was from his father
Emil and that was hazzy. I heard from the college was that he was a
novitiate and that he had typhus and died and he could not be sent home because
it was a contagious disease so they buried him right on the college
campus. What I would like to know was who were his parents?
Evidently Anna Hurray was his mother and he was a brother to Joseph and Emil.
My grandmother Anna came from Spišské Podhradie, also known as Kirchdorf
amongst German-speakers where the letter said Stephen came
from.
*[Scholastics
& postulants are young men with 1st vows & therefore a
member of the Society of Mary] & postulants [young men, some as young as
14yrs. old, who are exploring whether or not they want to be members of the
Society of Mary] – the Society of Mary is a Roman Catholic religious order of
men comprised of both brothers & priests)
**Researcher NACMS
*** Father Hackett”, [As far as I can
ascertain this person was not a member of the Society of Mary – possibly a
priest of the diocese charged with the procedure for having a person canonized]
who apparently said at one point “…and there was a movement to
canonize him.” Unclear as to whether the
movement was immediately following his death or a period of time afterwards
(between 1899-1934).
****The spelling “Hurrei” could be possibly one of
translation. The pronunciation of Huray
(H-U-R-A-Y), is said to vary, but that the original pronunciation had the last
syllable pronounced “eye”, phoenetically
like “her-eye”, with the accent on the second syllable. It’s unclear how they came up with the
spelling “Hurrei”, but that is one theory.
Another theory is that Stephen was very young when he died and far away
from home and no one was around to give the correct spelling.
*****Nazareth is a term used
to refer to the “community” (an enterprise) of St. Mary’s and the Marianists,
which is located on a former large farmland in Dayton.
For an overview of some relevant information see this video
(which concentrates on the University
of Dayton mainly, but Nazareth and St. Mary’s
were separate from the University and considered a pre-cursor ). Started in 1850 with 4 men (marianists).
******The Postulate was probably housed in (St. Mary
Convent 1865 edivace to house normal
school then renamed zaylor hall. 1866
building built liberty hall. Chapel of
the imm 1868 chapel of the immaculate conception built). 1870 St.
mary’s hall built. St.
Joseph Hall built 1883 (This was probably a residence hall. Known as the “boys of St. Mary’s” they
labored
## according to researcher Teresa trimboli
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r said he “entered the Postulate at Nazareth,
Dayton, Ohio
on July 6, 1896] [2 yrs. later, in 1896 he would have been 13
yrs. old and of an age to go to the postulate]. Was there a Steubenville connection? [For a few years, (1855-1858) the Society of Mary (Marianists),
in Louisville, Ohio
in the Diocese of Steubenville]
(my relatives seem to think so) .
But you mentioned there was a school in Pittsburgh, and that makes much more sense.
(there was also a higher-up Brother, Brother John Kim, from that time that I
believe came from the same school in Pittsburgh). Is that the “School of the Brothers of Mary
at St. Philomena Church?” Or was there
another one in Pittsburgh?
[At one time there were 5 schools run by the Brothers of Mary in
Pittsburgh – I
gave you the name of the most probable school Stephen would have attended]
On February 14, 1927
as perhaps inquiring about Stephen through the pen of S.A.
Gonda (who is Stephen’s sister’s husband; Stephen’s mother’s son-in-law [Stephen’s brother in law?]), because Stephen Hurrei’s mother died approx.. a year
after this letter of 1927 was written and perhaps needed some closure. The body was never
To: Teresa Trimboli at U.
of Dayton (a point of
clarification: NACMS is not part of the
Univ. of trimbotz@udayton.edu Dayton – the Univ.
of Dayton is only our
ISP provider) 7/11/2019
From: Thomas Hurray
1583 Oakwood Ave.
Akron, Ohio,
44301
Cell phone 330.957.2761
My responses: July 25, 2019
1.) Attached is a letter dated 2/14/1927 from Rev. Walter C.
(Fredtin??) (This is Father Walter C. Tredtin, SM – In 1927 Fr. Tredtin was Director
of Scholastics & postulants [young men with 1st vows &
therefore a member of the Society of Mary] & postulants [young men, some as
young as 14yrs. old, who are exploring whether or not they want to be members
of the Society of Mary] – the Society of Mary is a Roman Catholic religious
order of men comprised of both brothers & priests) to
Mr. S.A. Gonda. He said in the letter
there was “little booklet” that someone
wrote at the time of my great Uncle’s death, a “biography” he called it as
well. No author’s name is mentioned,
but Walter C. (Fredtin??) mentions in the letter that he (Walter) submitted the
“manuscript” of the little typewritten book, of which several copies were
made, to the “Superior of the Normal
School at that time” (Which was
1898) (From the resources
we have at NACMS, I cannot determine who was the Superior [Director] of the
Normal School in 1898).
2.) I am surmising from the tone of the letter that Stephen
Hurrei’s mother “Anna” (Stephen is my great Uncle), was perhaps inquiring about
Stephen through the pen of S.A. Gonda (who is Stephen’s sister’s husband;
Stephen’s mother’s son-in-law [Stephen’s brother in law?]), because Stephen Hurrei’s mother died approx.. a year
after this letter of 1927 was written and perhaps needed some closure. The body was never returned to Pennsylvania but buried in Dayton.
I am told by my relatives that Stephen had Typhus, but that is
unconfirmed, and it would be nice to know the real cause [check death certificates in Montgomery County
– cause of death may be noted there]. The Rev. John Rauscher [At the time he wrote the letter, Fr. John Rauscher was in
charge of the Postulants] mentioned in the letter that it was
“consumption” [another name for tuberculosis] (I
don’t know what that is).
3.) I’ve attached another letter. Can you have a look at that and determine
whether that might be the “manuscript”
of the “little booklet?” [probably] or is
there another one available [possibly in the Archives of the Society of Mary in San Antonio,
Texas – Mary Kenney, Archivist, mkenney@sm-usa.org
–
210-436-3329]. (Perhaps if I
could read the authors name a search would turn something up). Can you tell from the written letter who the
author is?? [This does look like
the manuscript of the biography – The letter is signed “S,” and the
biography is signed “Ferd. Spenner” – That is:
Father Ferdinand Spenner, SM]
4.) The handwritten letter said that Stephen Hurrei attended
the “school of the Brothers” in 1894. [Stephen would have
been 11 yrs. old – the Brothers School may have been a grade school in
Allegheny, Pennsylvania à St. Mary’s Grade School] [But, the third letter said he
“entered the Postulate at Nazareth, Dayton, Ohio
on July 6, 1896] [2 yrs. later, in 1896 he would have been 13
yrs. old and of an age to go to the postulate]. Was there a Steubenville connection? [For a few years, (1855-1858) the Society of Mary (Marianists),
in Louisville, Ohio
in the Diocese of Steubenville]
(my relatives seem to think so) .
But you mentioned there was a school in Pittsburgh, and that makes much more sense.
(there was also a higher-up Brother, Brother John Kim, from that time that I believe
came from the same school in Pittsburgh). Is that the “School of the Brothers of Mary
at St. Philomena Church?” Or was there
another one in Pittsburgh?
[At one time there were 5 schools run by the Brothers of Mary in
Pittsburgh – I
gave you the name of the most probable school Stephen would have attended]
5.) The handwritten letter also mentions a “notice of the
death” enclosed with the letter. I’m
wondering what he is referring to, and can we get a copy of that? [Maybe at the Archives in San
Antonio]
6.) There is yet a third letter dated Feb. 10, 1934 written to “Father Hackett”, [As far as I can ascertain this person was not a member of the
Society of Mary – possibly a priest of the diocese charged with the procedure
for having a person canonized] who apparently said at one point
“…and there was a movement to canonize him.”
If we could find that original letter from Father Hackett that would be
great. (Amazing how you could be
canonized at such a young age??). [That’s just what was done at
that time in history]
7.) Are there any documents saying who both of Stephen
Hurrei’s parent’s were (or Stephen
Huray)? [Check public records where he was born]
8.) Teresa, as you
mentioned, he was not a Brother or a Priest at the time because he was too young,
but a Postulate of the Normal School(?).
If so, you mentioned those records may be in San Antonio, Texas
(I’m willing to travel if I’m required to).
9.) Are there any pictures from between the dates 1894 and
1898? [Maybe at the Archives in San
Antonio] If there’s any pictures at all
from say, the retreat they mentioned, or of any of the entering “postulates”,
perhaps my relatives could pick him out since we do have a look about us. Plus, Stephen would only be between 13 and 16
years old in any of the pictures.
10.) In my research I did come across today an online book
called the Centenary
of the Society of Mary that your
library should probably acquire the microfilm or hard copy of. It gave some superior names of Rev. Meyer and
Brother John Kim, but I don’t think that is relevant, just F.Y.I. The book is quite interesting. [Thanks for the info -- &
yes, I doubt either Meyer or Kim are relevant to your search]
11.) The other rub here is that my Great Uncles name in the
Postulate was spelled Stephen Hurrei (H-U-R-R-E-I ). I’m pretty sure that his birth surname in
Slovakia was spelled Huray (H-U-R-A-Y),
but I believe both were pronounced the same at that time (which might be why it
was spelled differently, and perhaps no one from the family was able to travel,
which would be very sad if true, that would be nice to find out as well). So, if you are doing a search, you might want
to try searching both spellings. [Common happening for names –
did check variant spellings]
12.) Any information at all that you can find is greatly
appreciated, so whatever you can find, or where I can go to find it would be
great. Sorry for the long note, but you
did tell me to give you all the information I had so far. LOL.
I just ask that you please check-in with me periodically so
that I know you haven’t forgot about me.
-Tom Hurray
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1[“Kirchdrauf”, the german name for Spisske….was
the town used when he identified where he was from. Reason for that?? (could be any number of
reasons). In the Hungarian tongue the
town is referred to as : Szepesváralja
2 The name of the Church in which Stephen was
baptized was called:__________________
3It is unclear why the “Huray” name is spelled
“Hurrei” on Stephen’s gravestone, and in the documents from the Postulant
Register. Do you know why? Could it be that someone else
registered him on the documents, other than his parents, per: the handwritten
letter? Or can you think of another
reason? Were there any other documents
that showed the spelling of H-U-R-A-Y? or H-U-R-R-A-Y? instead of H-U-R-R-E-I ?
on the _______ or even on Stephen’s grave.
This is the only time I have found it spelled that way. Considering there were many translation errors
back in the day, that is the only theory I can come up with. The other theory is that the pronunciation
at the time with a Slovak/German/Hungarian etc. accent could have been
interpreted as “Hurrei” from the pronunciation.
The Hungarian genealogical expert at the LDS Mormon church says an “aj”
(similar to ay) at the end of a name is pronounced like an “eye”. There are some Hurrei’s in the Pennsyvania
and Ohio area, but only a few according to Ancestry.com.
2 [In 1894, there were 5 such schools in the
Pittsburgh/Allegheny area at the time that were run by the “The Brothers of Mary”, but St. Mary’s Grade School was the
most probably the one that Stephen attended.]## St. Mary’s which may have been a grade school in
Allegheny, Pennsylvania called St.
Mary’s Grade School .]-This according to Teresa Trimboli a researcher at NACMS (North American Center
for Marianist Studies, in Dayton Ohio).
3As suggested by Teresa Trimboli
4A postulant is a term to designate those who are
seeking ordination to the diaconate or priesthood. Postulancy is generally
considered the first formal step leading to candidacy and ordination, and lasts
anywhere from 4 mos. to 2 years (is this generally correct? If not, do you know how long Stephen spent
in his postulancy?)